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Creators Title Comments & References Year Source Page AA Categories
Louis Lam Do As I Do "An Experiment in Coincidence", two four-card piles are made by counting some cards with both both decks, bottom cards match
1935 6
Keith Clark Silks Supreme silk produced, knot effects, silk becomes two, then three, then six and up to eighteen or more
  • As the Spectator Sees It
  • Properties
  • Preparation
  • Presentation
    • 1. A Striking Experiment
    • 2. The "Naughty" Knots
    • 3. Squeegie, Squeegie!
    • 4. The Fourth Dimension
    • 5. Another Silk Appears
    • 6. The Conjurer Counts - And Counts Again!
    • 7. The Sympathetic Silks
    • 8. The Multiplication Finale
1942 1
Edward Marlo A Miracle with Cards four spectators each cut off a packet, remember the bottom card and shuffle the whole packet, performer looks at each packet and finds the selections, secretly counting the packets, last card from pocket
  • alternative in which the last wrong card changes into selection
Related toVariations Dec. 1956
Ibidem (Issue 8)
11
Edward Marlo Magical Seven selection reversed in face-up portion travels down into lower face-down portion into seventh position, several repeats
  • Phase One
  • Phase Two
  • Phase Three
  • Phase Four
  • Phase Five
Related toVariations 1958 2
Ellis Stanyon Stanyon Count five as four, hiding two
Nov. 1969
Epilogue (Issue 7)
55
Jeff Busby Two Counts: Four As Four alternative to Jordan Count
Related to Nov. 1974
Epilogue (Issue 22)
207
Gene Castillon The Spirit Count two as four with four-card packet
Also published here 1976
Kabbala — Volume 3 (Vol. 3 No. 4)
53
Daryl Martinez D.M. Count two as four
1976 68
Paul Harris The Bizarre Twist! card perpendicular between two other cards turns visually over, color changing back kicker ("The Bizarre Routine")
Related toVariationsAlso published here 1976 73
Ken Krenzel Marionette Multiple Coin Vanish
Related toVariations Apr. 1978
Apocalypse (Vol. 1 No. 4)
42
Brother John Hamman, Daryl Martinez Two-as-Four Count / DM Count only two backs used to count four cards
1980 109
Jon Racherbaumer Two as Four Count
1981 41
Peter Kane Four-As-Four Concealing Two Count end grip
1982 62
Brother John Hamman, Daryl Martinez Two-as-Four Count / DM Count
Feb. 1983
Apocalypse (Vol. 6 No. 2)
737
Brother John Hamman, Daryl Martinez Two-as-Four Count / DM Count brief
Mar. 1984
Apocalypse (Vol. 7 No. 3)
894
Daryl Martinez Two as Four Count
1984 56
Herb Zarrow Multiple Switch-In while counting four cards in Biddle fashion, two are placed in different locations in the deck
1984 76
Daryl Martinez Two-as-Four Count / DM Count
Winter 1985
The Collected Almanac (Vol. 3 No. 34, 35 & 36)
374
Charlie Miller False Counts off the deck (1939)
  • Four as Three
  • Two as Three
1985 30
Daryl Martinez DM Count two as four
1985 6
Edward Marlo Flipover Count two double facers as four different cards
1987 28
Ellis Stanyon Stanyon Count five as four, hiding two
1988 218
Edward Marlo Marlo's Nerve Count showing four cards as four of a kind with two x-cards
1988 252
Brother John Hamman, Daryl Martinez Two as Four Count
1988 55
Karl Fulves Card Counter two Twos, one put away, he now has three Threes, repeated with Fours, then Royal Flush, posed as problem
1988
Interlocutor (Issue 47)
191
Brother John Hamman The Two-As-Four Count
1989 117
Karl Fulves Carrousel Count four-as-four while concealing two
1989 17
Brother John Hamman, Daryl Martinez Two-as-Four Count / DM Count
1990 36
Wesley James Six New Counts chapter intro
Related to 1990 2
Daryl Two as Four Count
1990 13
Simon Aronson Simon-Eyes two cards thought of with counting procedure, both cards divined with "No No's Fishing"
  • Reality
  • The Problem
  • No No's Fishing
  • The Simon-Eyes Arrangement
  • The Selection Procedure
  • Fishing in the Simon-Eyes Pack
  • Fishing for the Values
  • Fishing for the Suits
  • The Faro Restacking Simon-Eyes Pack
Related toVariations 1990 123
Gary Kurtz The G.K. Cups and Balls balls change color, seven final loads
  • Phase One - Introducing the Props
  • Phase Two - Countering Expectations
  • Phase Three - Variation on Vernon's Travelling Sequences
  • Phase Four (All Three Balls Appear under the Centre Cup)
  • Part Five: The Final Loading Sequences (Part One)
  • Phase Six: Producing Three Oranges (and Reloading)
  • Phase Seven: The Final Stretch
1991 1
Jeff Busby, Edward Marlo Neo-Jordan Count
Related to 1992 53
Brother John Hamman, Daryl Martinez Two-as-Four Count brief
1992 252
Brother John Hamman Two-as-Four Count
1997 242
Gene Castillon The Spirit Count two as four with four-card packet
1998 22
Allan Ackerman Rhythm Flustration Count two as four-of-a-kind
2001 11
Aldo Colombini The Aces Are Gone four black cards, four red cards, four Aces, Aces put between other two packets and they vanish, then Oil & Queens with remaining 4&4 cards with Aces as kicker
Inspired by
  • "Off-Counted" (Erhard Liebenow, Linking Ring, Mar. 1995)
Sep. 2001
Ego (Vol. 1 No. 4)
4
Two-as-Four Count with two cards
2003 14
Wesley James Four-as-Four (Hiding Two, FAF-Two) Counts discussion of 4-as-4 counts
  • The FAF-Two C Count
Related to 2004 380
James Swain Las Vegas Count
  • The Card Expert
Gemini/Rhythm Count variation, hiding two of four faces
Oct. 2006
Genii (Vol. 69 No. 10)
29
Steve Beam The Flash Card Count
  • Two Show Four Different Cards as Two Pairs of Identical Cards
  • Two Show Four Different Cards as One Odd and Three Identical Cards
  • Two Show Five Different Cards to Consist of One Odd and Four Identical Cards
2008 21
Brother John Hamman Two as Four Count see also p. 29 ("On The Two As Four Count")
July 2009
Genii (Vol. 72 No. 7)
26
Steve Reynolds Flashback Count four cards, showing two twice
Inspired byRelated to 2010 19
Wesley James Four-as-Four (Hiding Two, FAF-Two) Counts discussion of 4-as-4 counts
  • The FAF-Two M Count
  • The FAF-Two C Count
  • Application Notes
Related to 2010 107
Two-as-Four EYE Count
2014 219
John Guastaferro Petal Count Display three indifferent cards and two Jokers can be shown as four Jokers
Also published here Feb. 2014 491
John Guastaferro Petal Count Display three indifferent cards and two Jokers can be shown as four Jokers
Also published here 2015 134
Brother John Hamman Two-As-Four Count
July 2017
Elixir (Vol. 1 No. 1 (Summer #1))
7
Brother John Hamman Two as Four Count
Oct. 2018
Elixir (Vol. 2 No. 1 (Summer #2))
116
Two as Four count
2018 62
Brother John Hamman, Daryl Martinez Two-as-Four Count
2018
Silhouette (Vol. 1 No. 1)
6
Nancy Colwell Hamman/Martinez Two-as-Four Count Handling starting in left-hand straddle grip
2019
Silhouette (Vol. 1 No. 2)
23
Larry Jennings Brother Hamman's Two as Four Count (All-Count Technique) right-hand corner grip
2020 264
Michael Rubinstein The Combination Count two as four, R.O.P.S. Discrepancy Count & Fidget Count, see also p. 313
2020 59
Jim Steinmeyer Five Coincidences
  • Conjuring
cards counted into glass on a cardboard piece, spectator stops five times and those cards are placed against the bookmark, the five cards are four Threes and a Two with a third pip drawn on it, rest of cards shown to be double-backed
June 2021
Genii (Vol. 84 No. 6)
68