Overcounts (as more than are there)

220 entries in Cards / Sleights / False Count / Overcounts (as more than are there)
Creators Title Comments & References Year Source Page AA Categories
False Count overcounting by starting to verbally count once the first few cards have been counted off
 		Sep. 1896 Der Zauberspiegel (Vol. 2 No. 1) 15
Snapping Sound False Count six as seven in example
 		1902 The Modern Conjurer 89
False Count seven as eight, using snap sound
 		1909 The Art of Magic 49
Stanley Collins False Count removing four as three cards from the deck, milking extra card
 		1915 Original Magical Creations 27
Snap False Count cards over-counted from top of deck
 		1937 The Jinx (Issue Winter Extra 1936/37) 179
Laurie Ireland The False Count also off the top of the deck
 		1938 Lessons in Dishonesty 12
Francis Carlyle The Carlyle False Count I. To Count a Number of Cards Showing Less Than There Are.
II. To Count a Number of Cards as More Than They Really Are.
Related toVariations 1940 More Card Manipulations (Issue 3) 15
Eddie Joseph Overcount packet counted from hand to hand
 		1941 How Gamblers Win 10
Snap False Count cards over-counted from top of deck
 		1943 Full Deck of Impromptu Card Tricks 52
Direct False Count
1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 201
Slip-Over False Count
1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 203
Put-Back False Count counting cards off a pack
 		1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 204
Palm-Over False Count into spectator's hand
 		1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 206
Jack Hecht Over-Hand False Count using lift shuffle
 		1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 209
The False Count
1945/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 4 162
Arthur H. Buckley The False Count for More
Related to 1946 Card Control 53
Arthur H. Buckley The False Count for More with sound
 		1948 Principles and Deceptions 152
The False Count
1948 The Card Expert Entertains 134
Arthur H. Buckley The False Count
1948 The Card Expert Entertains 143
Dr. Jacob Daley Laydown False Count
1950 Stars of Magic (Vol. 7 No. 1) 103
Dr. Jacob Daley Snap False Count
1950 Stars of Magic (Vol. 7 No. 1) 105
To deal two cards as three off the top of the deck into the right hand
 		1950 Lucky Aces 6
Edward Marlo Sleight of Tongue False Count bold
 		1953 The Cardician 46
Edward Marlo The False Count
Related to 1953 The Cardician 94
Norman Osborn Double Count also "Unlimited Count", five as six with six different faces, double facer
Related toVariationsAlso published here 1953 Unlimited 5
Edward Marlo, Norman Osborn Improved Double Count five as six with six different faces, double facer, see also page 16 for variation
 		1953 Unlimited 8
Edward Marlo False Fan Group Count off the top of the deck
 		1953 Unlimited 28
Edward Marlo Impromptu Double Count e.g. seven as ten, cards counted reversed to bottom
 		1953 Unlimited 30
Method 1 a fake-take count
 		1954 Handbook Of Card Sleights 16
Cy Endfield False Count
1955 Cy Endfield's Entertaining Card Magic — Part I 60
Cy Endfield, Bill Simon There's Five Aces! four Aces are counted as five as a gag
Related toAlso published here 1955 Cy Endfield's Entertaining Card Magic — Part II 44
Dai Vernon First False Count seven as ten, faces shown each time, two taken back instead of taking one on one counting action
Related to 1960 More Inner Secrets of Card Magic 63
Dai Vernon Second False Count with fake take, scrapping sound
 		1960 More Inner Secrets of Card Magic 64
Eddie Joseph Peel Overcount cards peeled off packet held in glide position, bottom cards stolen back
 		1969 The Art of Eddie Joseph 16
George Sands Sandslide false count
 		1971 ca. Sandslide 16
Bob Stencel Counting Four as Five
Related to Dec. 1972 The Pallbearers Review Vol. 5-8 (Vol. 8 No. 2) 578
Jerry K. Hartman Four-as-Five Count cards counted one at a time, taking them from top and moving to bottom
 		1972 Packet Magic 64
Dai Vernon Vernon's False Count No. 39, cryptic, sounds like the ruse of showing the faces of the cards while doing an over-count, perhaps the referenced count
Related to 1972 Jacob Daley's Notebooks 15
Dr. Jacob Daley Daley's Out And In Alternate False Count No. 270
 		1972 Jacob Daley's Notebooks 67
Karl Fulves The Four As Five Count
1973 Packet Switches (Part One) 23
Karl Fulves Four As Five
Related to 1973 Packet Switches (Part Two) 104
Karl Fulves Variation On The Count variation on "Four As Five"
 		1973 Packet Switches (Part Two) 106
Jeff Busby Four As Five four as five with one concealed
 		Nov. 1974 Epilogue (Issue 22) 208
Francis Carlyle Francis Carlyle False Count tips on the Carlyle false count, not learnable from that description
Related to 1975 The Magic of Francis Carlyle 23
Edward Marlo, Norman Osborn, Jon Racherbaumer Unlimited Count Variation and Display six as seven
 		1976 Kabbala — Volume 3 (Vol. 3 No. 10) 132
Paul Harris Snap Count audible, two as three
 		1976 The Magic of Paul Harris 20
Biddle Move as Overcount
1977 Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtlety 18
The Elmsley Count - Added Comment Elmsley Count as overcount or undercount
 		1977 Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtlety 45
Ross Bertram False Count
1978 Magic and Methods of Ross Bertram 74
Edward Marlo Unlimited Count
1979 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 3 36
Edward Marlo The Flexible Count here as an overcount, also for interlaced vanish
 		1979 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 3 77
Alex Elmsley Three as Four Elmsley Count
1979 CardMagic 77
Edward Victor Eye Count
Feb. 1979 Pabular (Vol. 5 No. 2) 639
Willane False Counting for Eleven Card Trick
 		1979 The Chronicles (Issue 14) 1202
Edward Marlo Couting Less as More first false count
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 124
Edward Marlo To Count Less Cards as More second false count
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 128
Edward Marlo Third False Count
Variations 1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 129
Edward Marlo Fifth False Count
1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 132
Edward Marlo Sixth False Count only one move needed, re-loading count
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 134
Edward Marlo False Count for the Interlaced Vanish
1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 139
Edward Marlo Seventh False Count
1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 140
Edward Marlo The Marfoe Count (Jan. 1977) - First Count three as four, hiding one
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 147
Edward Marlo Second Count Marfoe Count, three as four, optionally hiding one
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 148
Edward Marlo Third Count Marfoe Count, three as five, hiding one
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 150
Edward Marlo Fourth Count Marfoe Count, three as five, hiding one
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 151
Edward Marlo Fifth Count Marfoe Count, three as five
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 151
Edward Marlo Sixth Count Marfoe Count, three as five
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 152
Edward Marlo Seventh Count Marfoe Count, three as six
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 153
Edward Marlo O.K. - Let's Play - Game #1-5 actually Switchless Switch handling, overcount and show the Kings from top of the deck
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 278
Edward Marlo Game #6 - Slip Count show and take Kings from deck while only having three
 		1980 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 4 283
Four as Five Count end grip
 		1980 Exclusive Card Miracles 29
False Counting Three Cards as Four
1980 The Upside Down Toppit — Volume II 8
Description of the Three as Four Elmsley
1980 For Close-Up Magicians' Eyes Only! 43
Biddle Count for over- or under-counting a packet
 		1980 Jedermanns Karten + Drei Knüller 26
Removing Less Cards from Deck
1981 The Lost Pages of the Kabbala 48
Two-as-Three Count showing sandwich, only two cards
 		1981 More Professional Card Tricks 19
Al Smith Overcount in Pairs taking a single card at one point
 		1981 Cards At Bay 13
Francis Carlyle, Derek Dingle Carlyle False Count Variation
Variations 1982 The Complete Works of Derek Dingle 216
Jon Racherbaumer, Ken Krenzel The Dissolving Departure with optical illusion to show two as three
 		1982 Card Finesse 44
Edward Marlo Additional Ideas - Broken Count Broken Elmsley Count and more broken counts
Variations 1982 Marlo's Unforgetable Wild Card 22
2/3 Count Elmsley type
 		1982 Spell-Binder (Vol. 2 No. Special #1 (Summer)) 2
Edward Marlo False Count to Table using deal cop
 		1983 Marlo's Plus Package 76
Paul Harris Two as Three Count
1983 A Close-Up Kinda Guy 46
Paul Harris The P.H. Cheapshot Count three snaps heard, two as three
 		1983 A Close-Up Kinda Guy 46
Edward Victor Eye Count
1983 Spell-Binder (Vol. 3 No. 26) 496
Edward Marlo The Olram Count Olram Subtlety as false count
 		1984 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 5 301
4 as 5 Elmsley Count
1984 Cards Hit 14
Norman Osborn, Philip T. Goldstein Unlimited Count Variation
1984 Fork Full of Appetizers — Book 2 20
Unlimited Overcount with jumbo cards
Related to 1984 Riesenkarten 2 12
Edward Victor Victor Count Variation
May 1985 Pabular (Vol. 8 No. 10) 1291
Overcount from Deck from deck into hand one by one
Related to 1985 The Fred Braue Notebooks (Issue 2) 12
Charlie Miller False Counts off the deck (1939)
  • Four as Three
  • Two as Three
 		1985 The Fred Braue Notebooks (Issue 2) 30
Nick Pudar Versatile Count under- or overcount
 		Oct. 1986 Apocalypse (Vol. 9 No. 10) 1265
Ray Kosby Interlaced Vanish Count
1986 Scratching the Surface 11
Elmer Biddle Das Biddle-Falschzählen
Also published here
  • Genii, Apr. 1947
 May 1986 Intermagic (Vol. 12 No. 2) 78
Dai Vernon, Dr. James William Elliott The Perfect-Pitch False Count recontructing Dr. James Elliot
Related to 1987 The Vernon Chronicles — Volume 1 90
Paul Harris Snap Count two as three
 		1987 The Commercial Magic of J.C. Wagner 155
Edward Victor The Eye Count
1987 The Commercial Magic of J.C. Wagner 155
Edward Marlo Flipover Count two double facers as four different cards
 		1987 Special Effects 28
Modified Jordan Count four as five
 		1987 Inspirations 63
Edward Marlo The False Count five as seven, five as six, four as five
 		1988 Marlo's Magazine — Volume 6 62
Larry Jennings Three as Four Count one by one on table
 		1988 The Cardwright 49
Paul Harris Overcount Off the Deck
1988 Magical Arts Journal (Vol. 2 No. 9-12 Paul Harris: The Act) 47
Francis Carlyle, Paul Harris The False Count
1988 Magical Arts Journal (Vol. 2 No. 9-12 Paul Harris: The Act) 50
End Grip Overcount with Biddle steal
 		1988 M.I.N.T. — Volume I 32
Edward Marlo Marlo Flexible Count
1988 M.I.N.T. — Volume I 37
Brother John Hamman Overcount Variations see following pages as well
 		1989 The Secrets of Brother John Hamman 130
Brother John Hamman The Countback
1989 The Secrets of Brother John Hamman 150
Karl Fulves Up The Ladder "swindle count in which any small number of cards can be counted as any larger number, and any number of cards can be concealed"
 		1989 And a Packet of Cards 14
Karl Fulves Overcount Off the Deck here two as three
 		1989 Kaleidoscope 25
Bill Wisch Top Secret Count false counts off the top of the deck, over, under, hiding cards
Variations 1989 Kaleidoscope 39
Randy Wakeman Overcount with Packet
1989 Randy Wakeman Presents 25
Ellis Stanyon Stanyon Count three-as-four Elmsley count
 		1989 Randy Wakeman Presents 72
Alex Elmsley Everchange Count four as five while hiding one
Also published here May 1989 Inside Out (Issue 6) 14
Edward Marlo 4-as-5 Count
Also published here
  • Sticks & Stones #13, 1978
 May 1989 Inside Out (Issue 6) 16
Juan Tamariz, Francis Carlyle Note III - False Count Tamariz' version of Carlyle's false count
Inspired by 1989/91 Sonata 243
Edward Marlo The Olram Count
Related to 1990 That's It 30
Edward Marlo, Norman Osborn Unlimited Display
1990 NYCANOTES 4
Simon Aronson Upjog Upset Unlimited Count
Inspired by 1990 The Aronson Approach 65
Edward Victor Eye Count
1990 Focus 70
Ellis Stanyon Stanyon Count
1990 Focus 74
Edward Marlo, Norman Osborn Unlimited Display Sequence
1990 Focus 84
Edward Marlo Unlimited Count
1990 Top Secret Stuff 96
Alex Elmsley Everchange Count four as five while hiding one
VariationsAlso published here 1991 The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley — Volume 1 74
Alex Elmsley Neverchange Count four as five, hiding one
 		1991 The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley — Volume 1 81
Eric de la Mare de la Mare False Count four as five, variation of Stanyon Count
Also published here 1991 The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley — Volume 1 232
Norman Osborn, Edward Marlo Unlimited Display
1991 Music City Conclave 1992 Notes 6
Paul Harris P.H. Snap Count audible, two as three
 		1991 Magic Castle Lecture Notes 22
Edward Marlo Unlimited Count
1992 The Olram Aces — The Impossible Travellers 12
Biddle Steal Count
1992 The Minotaur (Vol. 4 No. 4) 7
Ellis Stanyon Two-as-Three Count
1992 Pasteboard Presentations 72
Elmer Biddle ビドルムーブによるフォールスカウントI (Biddle Move as a False Count I)
 		1993 Larry Jennings's Card Technique 89
Elmer Biddle ビドルムーブによるフォールスカウントII (Biddle Move as a False Count II)
 		1993 Larry Jennings's Card Technique 89
Paul Harris P.H. Snap Count audible, two as three
 		1994 Las Vegas Kardma 98
Alex Elmsley 5 as 6 False Count
1994 The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley — Volume 2 219
Alex Elmsley Everchange Count Variation
Inspired by 1994 The Collected Works of Alex Elmsley — Volume 2 464
Brother John Hamman Hamman Count two as three
 		1994 The Minotaur (Vol. 6 No. 4) 13
Alex Elmsley Everchange Count four as five while hiding one
 		1994 Roger's Thesaurus 175
Edward Marlo 4-as-5 Count four as five while hiding one, Everchange Count handling
Inspired byAlso published here
  • Sticks and Stones No. 13, 1978
 1994 Roger's Thesaurus 177
Jack Avis Upright Count
Inspired by
  • "Perfect False Count" (Brian MacCarthy, Modern Sleights, 1934, p. 10)
 1994 Roger's Thesaurus 179
Cy Endfield, Bill Simon Endfield-Simon Count four as five
Also published here 1994 Roger's Thesaurus 182
Jack Avis Flip Up Put Back Count cards counted off the top of the deck, left thumb flips the cards up one by one
  • The Genuine Count
  • The False Count
  • The Force
 		1994 Roger's Thesaurus 188
Eric de la Mare De La Mare Count four as five
Also published here 1994 Roger's Thesaurus 217
Bob King Slide Count cards taken from left dealing position into right fingertips, card stolen back
 		1995 Cards to Pocket Plus 8
Verbal Backwards Counting
1995 Self-Working Close-up Card Magic 6
Paul Harris Snap Count
1995 Inside Cardmagic 64
Jerry K. Hartman, Brother John Hamman Simplified Undercount
1995 After Craft 138
Paul Harris Snap Count audible
 		1995 ca. Siamese Signatures and Other Oddities 8
Paul Harris P.H. Snap Count audible, two as three
 		1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 1 (Issue The Magic of Paul Harris) 53
Bill Malone Las Vegas Leaper Count II spectator counts himself
 		1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 1 (Issue Las Vegas Close-Up) 188
Paul Harris Snap Count one as two
 		1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 2 (Issue New Stuff) 59
Paul Harris Overcount from Deck
Related to 1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 3 (Issue Magical Arts Journal) 243
Francis Carlyle, Paul Harris The Carlyle False Count
1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 3 (Issue Magical Arts Journal) 246
Edward Victor EYE Count
1996 La Magia de Pablo Domènech 128
Peter Duffie Oversiter two eight-card packets, two cards travel across, Biddle counts
 		1996 Open Secrets 7
Larry Jennings The Six/Four Count
1997 Jennings '67 74
Larry Jennings The Alpha Count one as two
Also published here 1997 Jennings '67 182
Norman Osborn Unlimited Count
1997 The Vampire Papers 110
Karl Fulves Front Loading Osborn's Unlimited Count handling
 		1997 The Vampire Papers 120
Ron Bauer The Take-Back Count Switch
Inspired by 1997 L.I.N.T. — Pocket Stuff for Close-Up Magicians 139
Edward Marlo Covered False Count
1997 Solomon's Mind 32
Ellis Stanyon Three-as-Four Count
1997 Roger's Real Gone Aces 27
Roger Crosthwaite The Pull-Back False Count
Inspired byRelated to 1997 Roger's Real Gone Aces 39
Bob White, J. B. Bobo A False Count for example five as six
Also published here 1997 It's a Matter of Style 9
Paul Harris False Click Count here used to count off two (really one) cards from a packet
 		Oct. 1997 Onyx (Issue 1) 26
The Over-count off the top of the deck
 		1998 Card College — Volume 3 606
Karl Fulves Takeaway seven-as-nine count, a Three taken away, only six cards remain
 		1998 The Fine Print (Issue 9) 270
Ellis Stanyon The False Count No. 5, card moved back
 		1999 Ellis Stanyon's Best Card Tricks 33
Ellis Stanyon The False Count No. 8, slipping card back
 		1999 Ellis Stanyon's Best Card Tricks 295
Ellis Stanyon The False Count (Second Method) No. 9, with sound effect
 		1999 Ellis Stanyon's Best Card Tricks 295
False count face-down card below three face-up Aces is shown as a face-down card between four Aces
 		1999 Labyrinth (Issue 11) 17
Chuck Smith Optical Display to show two cards as three
 		2000 Why Not? 6
Terry LaGerould The Fool's Count cards counted from top to bottom, rotation
 		2001 Pasteboard Presentations II 23
Four as Five Count one card outjogged
 		2002 Scams & Fantasies with Cards 131
Lewis Jones Stainless steal cards dealt into right hand off the top of the deck, cards secretly stolen back to deck
 		2002 Ahead of the Pack 31
Ross Bertram Ross Bertram's false count
2003 Tricks 151
Psychological False Count "six plus four is ten"
 		2003 Artificial conclusions 14
Two-as-Four Count with two cards
 		2003 FISM 2003 14
Francis Carlyle Walking Finger Count
2003 Reflexions 17
Steve Beam Killer Count method to false count packet for any number, with Hamman Count
  • Variation #1 - Even Cards
  • Variation #2 - Even Cards
  • Variation #3 - Beamsley Count
  • Large Numbers
VariationsAlso published here 2004 Semi-Automatic Card Tricks — Volume 5 58
Lewis Jones Omega False Count
2004 Semi-Automatic Card Tricks — Volume 5 146
Steve Beam Killer Count method to false count packet for any number, with Hamman Count
Also published here 2004 Killer Koncepts 1
Two-As-Three Count
2004 Sankey Unleashed 44
Bob White, J. B. Bobo A False Count for example five as six
  • White's Comments
Also published here 2005 It's a Matter of Style (2005 edition) 24
Francis Carlyle Walking Finger Count
2006 Tangled Web 160
Ron Bauer Audible Count
2006 Final(ly) Aces 37
Arturo de Ascanio Ascanio's In-Transit Count snap overcount, thumb in between cards
Also published here 2006 The Magic of Ascanio — Studies of Card Magic 94
Ken Krenzel Finesse on the Killer Count handing cards to the spectator
Inspired by 2006 Semi-Automatic Card Tricks — Volume 6 213
Nick Pudar The Pudar Count
2007 Best of Friends — Volume III 106
False count “over-count” five cards as six
 		2007 Thought of Cards Across Project 3
Edward Victor E-Y-E Count
2008 This Is Not a Book 79
Steve Beam Counter Measures - The Killer Count method to false count packet for any number, with Hamman Count
  • Even Number
  • Variation #1 - Even Number
  • Variation #2 - Even Number
  • Finesse
  • Large Numbers
  • Boomerang (Doug Canning)
  • The Hamman Switch
Also published here 2008 Counter Attack 23
Edward Marlo Unlimited Count
Mar. 2008 Antinomy (Vol. 4 No. 1) 20
Francis Carlyle, Steve Beam Push-off Overcount off the top of the deck
 		2009 A Clockwork Apple 24
Biddle Overcount
2009 Open And Notorious 30
John Guastaferro Overturned Counts cards are turned over while counted one by one
1. Overturned Elmsley
2. Overturned Stanyon
 		2010 One Degree 77
Psychological False Count 14-13-12-... and y makes y
 		2010 Subsequent Impuzzibilities 13
Steve Reynolds Bluff Count Cop three as four while tabling every card
  • True Bluff Count
Inspired by 2010 Six Deep — Part One 17
Al Schneider False Count from top of deck
 		2011 Al Schneider Magic 458
E-Y-E Count to show two as three
 		2013 The Magic of Steven Hamilton 60
Biddle Overcount
2013 High Caliber 77
Paul Harris P.H. Snap Count
Also published here 2014 Blomberg Laboratories 171
Edward Victor The EYE count
2014 Blomberg Laboratories 176
Two-as-Four EYE Count
2014 Blomberg Laboratories 219
Two for Four Count
2014 Notes de Conférence 1 14
Arturo de Ascanio Ascanio's In-Transit Count
2014 A Fuego Lento — Volumen I 99
Norman Osborn Double Count counting a double faced card twice to show four of a kind
Also published here 2014 Art Decko 105
Steve Beam Killer Count method to false count packet for any number, Hamman Count look
Also published here Oct. 2014 Genii (Vol. 77 No. 10) 26
Dai Vernon Perfect-Pitch False Count
Related to 2016 In Order to Amaze 34
So Sato Vertical Three as Four Count Elmsley Count alternative
 		2016 The Secrets of So Sato 87
Edward Marlo Count 7 Carlyle count like
 		2017 Facsimile (Issue 6) 22
Brother John Hamman Countback
Oct. 2018 Elixir (Vol. 2 No. 1 (Summer #2)) 96
Two as Four count
2018 Kino. 62
Psychological False Count "six plus four is ten"
 		Oct. 2018 Genii (Vol. 81 No. 10) 26
Five as Six Count simple overcount
 		2020 The Boy Who Cried Magic 247
Steve Reynolds Loose Ends: Meddler's Bluff Vanish four cards shown as seven, using bluff pass
Inspired by
  • "Meddler's Assembly" (Steve Reynolds, Cosmic Sport, 2001)
Related to 		2020 Output (Issue 9) 17
Larry Jennings The Alpha Count with sound
Also published here 2020 Mr. Jennings Takes It Easy 520
Arturo de Ascanio Ascanio's In-Transit Count snap overcount, thumb in between cards
Also published here 2020 Reflections on the Double Card (Ascanio's Handling) 131
Dai Vernon On the False Count from private lecture notes by P. Howard Lyons
 		2022 Dai Vernon: The Spirit of Magic 88
Norman Osborn Double Count counting a double faced card twice to show four of a kind
Also published here 2022 Talk About Tricks (Issue 1) 655