Count and Drop

94 entries in Cards / Principles / Placement Principles / Count and Drop
Creators Title Comments & References Year Source Page AA Categories
Straight Cut Placement
Related toAlso published here 1952
The Last Word on Cards
50
Roger Smith Any Number via False Faro Method
  • The Faro Shuffler's Column #1
without actual faro, straight-cut placement ("False Faro")
Related toVariations Aug. 1970
Necromancer (Vol. 1 No. 1)
9
Roger Smith Any Number via False Faro Method - Variations two variations
Inspired by Sep. 1970
Necromancer (Vol. 1 No. 2)
8
Roger Smith The Greatest Faro Trick of the Century card vanish, straight cut placement, faro shuffle and sticky
 		Sep. 1970
Necromancer (Vol. 1 No. 2)
8
Edward Marlo Straight Cut Placement in third phase
 		1983
Marlo without Tears
148
Ken Simmons Who's Lying? lie speller
Inspired by
  • Automatic Speller Placement Principle (Jim Steinmeyer, The New Invocation #43)
Variations 		1993
Simplicity at Your Fingertips
28
David Neighbors Who's Lying? - Second Handling lie speller
Inspired by 1993
Simplicity at Your Fingertips
29
Jon Racherbaumer Dunbury Lie Speller - Eighteen-Card Version
Inspired by 1993
Simplicity at Your Fingertips
30
Mel Stover A Casbah Cavort spelling location with small packet and story presentation
 		1993
Rigmarole (Issue 1)
3
Roy Walton The Fixer eighteen-card packet mixed face-up/face-down, bottom card noted, spelling procedure, card found
Inspired by
  • "Remote Control" (Jim Steinmeyer, The New Invocation #43, Feb. 1988)
Variations 		1993
Rigmarole (Issue 4)
39
Karl Fulves Night School court cards removed and some cased, one of the remaining ones signed, counting ritual according to number cards that are cut to, selection found
Inspired by 1993
Verbatim (Issue 6)
52
Jim Steinmeyer The Nine Card Problem small packet spelling discovery, no-touch
Inspired by
  • "Remote Control" (Jim Steinmeyer, The New Invocation #43, Feb. 1988)
Related toVariationsAlso published here 		May 1993
Magic (Vol. 2 No. 9)
56
Jim Steinmeyer Remote Control small packet spelling discovery, no-touch
Also published here
  • The New Invocation #43, Feb. 1988
 May 1993
Magic (Vol. 2 No. 9)
57
Bob Farmer Nine Card Problem Handling alternative intro
Inspired by May 1993
Magic (Vol. 2 No. 9)
57
Jon Racherbaumer Dunbury Lie Speller
Variations May 1993
Magic (Vol. 2 No. 9)
58
Mel Stover, Jim Steinmeyer A Cavort In The Casbah To Capture Ali The Dope Dealer presentation for Steinmeyer's effect
Inspired by June 1993
Magic (Vol. 2 No. 10)
54
Larry Jennings Getting To Nine Nine Card Problem
Also published here July 1993
Magic (Vol. 2 No. 11)
53
Jerry K. Hartman Eight-Card Solution two versions:
  • two spectators each note a card from a small packet, each one follows an elimination procedure until down to one card, each spectator finds his card
  • single-spectator version
Also published here Aug. 1993
Magic (Vol. 2 No. 12)
52
Karl Fulves You, Babe after counting procedure with birthday a card with value Nine is selected, ninth item on a list matches spectator in humorous way
Related to 1994
Crooked Tales
5
Karl Fulves One Of Us Is Lying counting location
 		1994
Crooked Tales
6
Die Zuschauer zaubern spelling routine with eight cards
Related to
  • Roy Johnson routine in Abacus, ca. 1993
 May 1994
Intermagic (Vol. 18 No. 3)
105
Karl Fulves The Wizard of Odds No. 31, nine cards used for "three-card poker", hand with Ace of Spades wins, includes spelling of names, inspired by the Copperfield/Steinmeyer television trick
Related to 1995
Self-Working Close-up Card Magic
55
Jerry K. Hartman Eight Card Solution two versions:
  • two spectators each note a card from a small packet, each one follows an elimination procedure until down to one card, each spectator finds his card
  • single-spectator version (p. 249)
see also final notes in Card Craft reference for "an extended analysis of this procedure"
Inspired byRelated toAlso published here 1995
After Craft
248
Gene Castillon A Stitch In Nine spelling discovery with eighteen cards
  • A Two-Deck Version
Inspired byAlso published here
  • The Nine- Card Problem Recycled (treatise by Gene Castillon)
 Dec. 1995
Magic (Vol. 5 No. 4)
70
Bob King, Jim Steinmeyer, Jon Racherbaumer Tele-Mental
Also published here 1996
Five-Star Magic
23
Harry Lorayne, Jim Steinmeyer Spel(l)egant small packet
Related to Apr. 1997
Apocalypse (Vol. 20 No. 4)
2773
David Solomon Steinmeyer's Nine Card Problem with Seven Cards
Inspired byRelated to
  • "Remote Control" (Jim Steinmeyer, The New Invocation #43, Feb. 1988)
Variations 		1997
Solomon's Mind
19
David Solomon A Telephone Mystery telephone version
 		1997
Solomon's Mind
21
Bob Brown Bob Brown's Addition a follow-up phase, spelling comedy phrases
Inspired byAlso published here
  • "Magical Miscellany II" (Bob Brown, 1995)
 1997
Solomon's Mind
22
Marty Kane Magic Day small packet spelling location with Tantalizer elimination deal
 		Mar. 1997
Magic (Vol. 6 No. 7)
73
Jerry K. Hartman Lied and True Steinmeyer Count Principle
Related toAlso published here Winter 1998
The Looking Glass (Issue 4)
159
Peter Duffie Phone Zone No. 2 card location over phone
Inspired by 1998
Deck Direct
10
Gene Gordon Lie Detector With A Surprise lie speller with packet, at the end the selection is odd-backed and other cards blank
Inspired by Oct. 1998
Onyx (Issue 5)
35
Rajneesh Madhok, Alain Nu Business Sense Solomon's effect done with seven business cards
Inspired by Oct. 1998
Magic (Vol. 8 No. 2)
73
Edward Marlo Straight Cut Placement
1999
21st Century Card Magic
23
Bob King, Jim Steinmeyer, Jon Racherbaumer Telemental
Also published here 2000
Great Britain 2001
20
David Regal Compounding a Lie nine card problem
  • Handling No. 1: Red-handed (odd-backed)
  • Handling No. 2: Nothing But the Truth (other cards blank)
Also published here July 2000
Genii (Vol. 63 No. 7)
57
Karl Fulves Guiding Light diminishing speller with packet
Variations 2000
Discoverie (Issue 2)
20
Straight Cut Placement
2000
Virtual Miracles
12
Peter Duffie Miracle or Impossible Revisited selection found by spelling to some predetermined words
Inspired by
  • "Miracle or Impossible" (Arun Bonerjee, Billet No. 348, July/Aug. 2000)
 2001
Cards By All Means
6
Terry LaGerould Cardboard Lie Detector with packet, Nine Card Problem
 		2001
Pasteboard Presentations II
50
David Regal Compounding A Lie nine cards from deck
  • Version One - Red-handed (odd-backed)
  • Version Two - Nothing but the Truth (other cards blank)
Also published here 2002
Constant Fooling 2
12
Jim Steinmeyer The Nine Card Problem small packet spelling discovery, no-touch
Also published here 2002
Impuzzibilities
5
Jim Steinmeyer The Full Deck Problem Nine Card Problem version with deck
Variations 2002
Impuzzibilities
8
John C. Wagner, Jim Steinmeyer Packet Lie Detector #2
Inspired by 2005
Full Metal Jacket
26
Cushing Strout Variations on "The Nine Problem" Small packet spelling discovery, no-touch, gives different ways to present it (tarot cards etc.)
Inspired by 2005
On the Other Side of the Mirror
9
Karl Fulves The Ten-Hand Deal five piles, spectator assigns numbers from five to nine to them and deals that many cards to the bottom in each case, put together, ten-hand double duke
 		2006
Prolix (Issue 2)
91
Karl Fulves Casino Connection five piles, spectator assigns numbers from five to nine to them via a lucky straight from a casino deck and deals that many cards to the bottom in each case, put together, ten-hand double duke
 		2006
Prolix (Issue 2)
93
Ramón Riobóo Signed Deal small packet spelling discovery
Inspired by
  • Jack Yates' "Miracle Mix-up"
Related to 		2006
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks — Volume 7
45
Michael Powers The 7 Card 21 Card Trick
  • Telephone Method
Inspired by 2006
Power Plays
125
Edward Marlo Straight Cut Placement
Nov. 2006
Antinomy (Vol. 2 No. 4)
6
Edward Marlo Straight Cut Placement with explanation by Tomas Blomberg
Related to 2007
7-7-7
29
Gene Castillon "Odd Chance" 21 Card Trick two selections
Inspired by 2007
7-7-7
140
Gene Castillon Random Spell & Odd Chance 21 Card Trick two selections
Related to 2007
7-7-7
143
Gene Castillon Triple Odd Chance 21 Card Trick three selections
Variations 2007
7-7-7
145
Gene Castillon Dishonest 21 Card Trick using a secret extra card, four selections
 		2007
7-7-7
152
Jack Parker The Third Time's The Charm three spectators select a card and get a third of the deck each, it ends up on top eventually
Inspired by
  • "Low Down Triple Dealing" (Colm Mulchy, FOCUS magazine, Nov. 2004)
Variations 		June 2007
Genii (Vol. 70 No. 6)
38
Jerry K. Hartman Lied and True spectator selects card and loses it in packet through series of mixes and many “lie-detector-question” deals, in the end the selection is found
Inspired by
  • "Acme Lie Detector" (Marty Kane, private correspondence)
Also published here 		2007
Card Dupery
337
Mel Bennett Familiar Spirit deck cut into three piles by spectator, selection found with spelling some phrases
Related to 2008
Prolix (Issue 4)
218
Tomas Blomberg Time After Time three spectators mix a selection in a third of the deck each, it ends up on top eventually
  • Part 1: The Multiple Selection and Control
  • Part 2: The Irrefutable Mix-Up
  • Part 3: The Impossible Revelation
Inspired byAlso published here Apr. 2008
Genii (Vol. 71 No. 4)
21
Mel Bennett Funny Valentine selection shuffled in deck, cut into three piles, performer indicates a pile and some phrases are spelled which lead to selection
Inspired by
  • "Lowdown Triple Dealing" principle (Colm Mulcahy, Focus, Nov. 2004)
Related to 		2009
Prolix (Issue 6)
354
Tom Stone Math vs. Magic four spectators with a fourth of the deck do some dealing/spelling procedure and end up with an Ace on top, based on Jim Steinmeyer's "Nine Card Problem"
Also published here 2009
Fuzzy Logic
6
Tom Stone Calculated Aces four spectators with a fourth of the deck do some dealing/spelling procedure and end up with an Ace on top, based on Jim Steinmeyer's "Nine Card Problem"
Also published here 2010
Vortex
32
Burton S. Sperber The Ten-Card Trick
2010
Miracles of my Friends II
103
Harry Lorayne Nine To Twelve a few cards including selection taken and a series of tricks performed
  • Reverse Faro Ending
  • Spel(l)egant
  • No-Force Lorayne Force
  • Telekinesis
Related to 2011
Special Effects
98
Mel Bennett Taking The Fifth "Two by Mel Bennett"
two selections from nine-card packet, both selections found
Inspired by 2012
Prolix (Issue 10)
645
Jim Steinmeyer, Wayne Dobson The Nine Card Problem small packet spelling discovery, no-touch
Inspired by 2013
More Look No Hands
21
Tomas Blomberg Time After Time three spectators mix a selection in a third of the deck each, it ends up on top eventually
Inspired byAlso published here 2014
Blomberg Laboratories
283
Steve Beam The Lower Forty-Eight four-Ace location, faces of the rest of the deck vanish and reappear on a 48-on-one single card
Inspired byRelated toAlso published here 2015
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks — Volume 9
173
Steve Beam The Lower 48 four-Ace location, faces of the rest of the deck vanish and reappear on a 48-on-one single card
Also published here 2016
Tea Time With The Pasteboards
13
Roy Walton Clubland selection made from packet found via spelling procedure
 		2016
The Complete Walton — Volume 3
169
Adrian Vega, Jim Steinmeyer Código Secreto lie detector with two sets of eight cards
 		2017
Area 52
55
Áriston, Rafael O. Fontao Superimpossible prediction of position where selection ends up, nine cards are mixed by spelling cards
Related to 2017
Hojas Sueltas
75
Eugene Burger Telephone Magic card from seven-card packet is chosen and found by spectator himself, Nine Card Problem
  • Spanish Language Version
Inspired by 2017
Teaching Magic
125
John Hostler Tarot Trip spectator spells things in fourteen-card packet to find selection from tarot deck
Inspired by 2018
Firkin of Deipotent Trouvailles
34
Colm Mulcahy C.O.A.T. 原理 (C.O.A.T. Principle) Description of the Counting Out And Transfer Principle, with credits, places selection at specific location after counting and dropping cards
Related to 2018
Enthusiasm
31
Alberto de Figueiredo, David Solomon Detector Solomónico
Inspired by 2018
Veinticinco
237
Michael Powers The Lying Traveler three packets, selection travels from packet to packet, lie speller finale
Inspired by 2019
Tesseract
21
Marty Kane, Michael Powers, Colm Mulcahy, Chris Wilcox BTTP Revisited
  • The Bottom to Top Principle" (Colm Mulcahy)
  • Three-Peat Deceit by Marty Kane (spectator spells name of card three times, then it is on top)
  • Try This (three spectators simultaneously)
  • Telephone/Radio Version
  • Last Minute Addition (restoring original order)
Inspired by
  • "Bottom to Top Principle" (Colm Mulcahy, Mathematical Card Magic)
 2019
Tesseract
237
Michael Powers The Money Game Revisited card signed and lost, seven envelopes with money, lie detector and answers are spelled with envelopes, remaining envelope contains selection
Inspired by 2019
Tesseract
280
Jim Steinmeyer Excessive Force fourteen cards are apparently mixed according to spectator's wishes, but end up in order
 		2020
Curious Impuzzibilities
13
Jim Steinmeyer The Nine Card Enchantment top and bottom cards change places after spelling three words
 		2020
Curious Impuzzibilities
16
Jim Steinmeyer The Lie That Tells the Truth
Inspired by 2020
Virtual Impuzzibilities
18
Larry Jennings Getting to Nine Nine Card Problem
Also published here 2020
Mr. Jennings Takes It Easy
477
Sylvain Juzan The Winning Triplets three cards thought of from packet, three more cards selected and lost, thought-of cards are spelled out without actually finding them, other three selections are then on top, using Triple Dealing Principle (with credit information)
 		2021
Every Card You Take
53
Boris Wild Zoom 9 no-touch packet location with spelling
  • Variations of Choices
  • Variations of Revelations
  • Online Variations
Inspired by 2021
Variations
7
Jim Steinmeyer Fastest, Neatest No. 10, spelling trick with packet, first letter of value used to spell "fastest" and "neatest"
Inspired by
  • routines in Jim Scott's "Spellbinders, for Teachers and Entertainers"
 2021
Bewildering Impuzzibilities
30
Jim Steinmeyer Will I Be Lucky? No. 11, spelling trick with packet, finding lucky Ten of Hearts
Inspired by
  • routines in Jim Scott's "Spellbinders, for Teachers and Entertainers"
 2021
Bewildering Impuzzibilities
32
George McBride Polygraph puzzling placement
 		2022
The Glasgow File — Volume 1
74
Joshua Messado Everyone Loves Me four spectators have a packet of cards each, they spell a name and end up with an Ace each
Inspired by Sep. 2023
Genii (Vol. 86 No. 9)
78
Straight Cut Placement
Aug. 2023
The Hermit (Vol. 2 No. 8)
962
Edward Marlo Straight Cut Placement
Also published here 2023
The Nth Degree°
119
Werner Miller The Three of Diamonds Trick three selections made from packet with thirteen Diamond cards with dealing procedure, found by spelling
Inspired by
  • "Chain of Three Diamonds" (Werner Miller, The Mystery Magazine Vol. 2 No. 1, 2010)
Variations 		Jan. 2024
The Hermit (Vol. 3 No. 1)
1186
Werner Miller A Correction for The Three of Diamonds trick three selections made from packet with thirteen Diamond cards with dealing procedure, found by spelling
Inspired by Feb. 2024
The Hermit (Vol. 3 No. 2)
1228