In the Hands

163 entries in Bill / Transformation / Bill or Paper / Single / In the Hands
Creators Title Comments & References Year Source Page AA Categories
Max Holden Shrinking Dollar Bill "Thoughts in General", from Linking Ring May 1935
 		1935 The Jinx 1-50 (Issue 12) 58
Jack Vosburgh Money Enraptured bill becomes giant bill
 		1941 The Jinx 101-151 (Issue 126) 731
Milbourne Christopher Paper Money crumpled piece of newspaper changes in a dollar bill
 		1943 The Phoenix 1-50 (Issue 35) 145
John Scarne John Scarne's Bill Change ungimmicked
Related to 1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 106
Samuel Berland Berland's One to Four bill is cut in fourths, each change to new bill
 		1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 130
Unknown Making Money to Order cut paper to money
 		1943/27 Tarbell Course in Magic — Volume 3 133
Milbourne Christopher Paper Money piece of newspaper to bill
 		1945 My Best 161
Karrell Fox Jam Auction one dollar bill to five dollar bill, then five transforms into a dime
Also published here 1948 The Phoenix 151-200 (Issue 163) 656
Milbourne Christopher Paper to Bill newspaper ball changes to bill
 		1949 Over the Coffee Cups 6
Ricki Dunn IOU $1.00 spectator's Dollar bill is folded and he holds it, when he opens it up again he holds a paper with "IOU $1.00" written on it, pickpocket presentation
Also published here 1954 The New Phoenix 301-348 (Issue 306) 21
Bert Jacques, Gene Keeney Two Dollar Bill Tear two-dollar bill torn, halves change into one-dollar bills
Variations 1973 Close-up Cavalcade 135
Larry West Buck-A-Reno four one-dollar bills, one changes into a Fiver
 		1973 Close-up Cavalcade 143
Amedeo Vacca I Owe You bill transforms into paper in spectator's hand, to get tip
 		1974 Amedeo's Continental Magic 90
Duke Stern The Seven Dollar Trick two one-dollar bill and one five-dollar bill, the fiver also changes into a one-dollar bill
 		1977 Close-up Cavalcade Finale 173
Mike Kozlowski The Hundred Dollar Bill Switch
  • The Effect and the Challenge
  • Possibilities
  • The How and the Why
  • Getting Ready
  • Mechanically Speaking
  • Both Sides Now
  • Presentation and...
Also published here 1977 The Hundred Dollar Bill Switch 3
Eric Mason Make a Note of It bill is folded, tossed into the air, where it changes into a giant bill
 		Aug. 1979 Pabular (Vol. 5 No. 8) 716
Jean Hugard Ich zahle stets mit großem Geld bill grows to jumbo bill
 		Dec. 1979 Intermagic (Vol. 6 No. 3&4) 103
Karrell Fox Geld Auktion one dollar bill to five dollar bill, then five transforms into a dime
Also published here Dec. 1979 Intermagic (Vol. 6 No. 3&4) 106
Ricki Dunn Der Meisterdieb spectator's Dollar bill is folded and he holds it, when he opens it up again he holds a paper with "IOU $1.00" written on it, pickpocket presentation
Also published here Dec. 1979 Intermagic (Vol. 6 No. 3&4) 107
Danny Korem The Million Dollar Bill Switch pendulum holdout
 		1980 The Upside Down Toppit — Volume II 37
Michael Ammar Presentation 1 for Bill Switch
 		1983 Encore III 20
Gaëtan Bloom Presentation 2 for Bill Switch
 		1983 Encore III 22
Gaëtan Bloom Presentation Three for Bill Switch
 		1983 Encore III 23
Tony Miller Presentation Four for Bill Switch
Related to 1983 Encore III 23
Michael Ammar Two Dollar Bill Tear two dollar bill splits into two one dollar bills and back
Inspired by 1983 Encore III 41
James Rigali George Steps Out signed 1 dollar bill changes to 5 dollar bill
 		1985 The Collected Almanac (Vol. 3 No. 25, 26 & 27) 245
Sol Stone Inflation bill switch
 		1985 Best of Friends — Volume II 351
James Lewis The Mismade Dollar Bill
  • The Torn and Restored Mismade Dollar Bill
  • Turning a Dollar Bill Inside Out
 		1985 Thinking About Magic 19
Jay Sankey Bill Fusion two 5$-bills become 10$ bill and back
Related to 1986 Sankey Panky 43
James Lewis Lottery Fever lottery presentation for 100% bill switch
 		1987 Magical Arts Journal (Vol. 1 No. 5&6) 22
Jamy Ian Swiss The $100 Bill Switch Bit presentational idea
 		1987 Magical Arts Journal (Vol. 1 No. 11&12) 26
Thomas Hierling Können Sie auch...?! ten to hundred bill change, then borrowed bill torn and restored with tape all over it
 		1987 New Wave Close-Up 63
Karl Fulves Notes on bill switches
Related to 1989 Money Moves 9
Jay Sankey The Company One Keeps multiple phase bill change routine
 		1990 100% Sankey 34
Rocco Silano Mismade Bill Switch
1990 If it fits... Sleeve it! 66
Roy Johnson Snap folded piece of paper visible changes to bill
  • Das Gimmick und seine Handhabung
  • Vorführ-Finessen
  • Ultra-Finesse
  • Die Herstellung des Gimmicks
  • Der "Zusammenbau"
 		1990 Snap 1
Roger Klause Even Money borrowed Twenty Dollar Bill is split into two Tens, using $100.00 Bill Change
 		1991 Roger Klause: In Concert 63
Roger Klause Cheque cheque changed into dollar bill, using $100.00 Bill Change
 		1991 Roger Klause: In Concert 65
Roger Klause The Operator multi-phase betting game presentation, mis-indexed dollar bill
1. The Coin Con (Two-Copper/One-Silver routine)
2. The Bill Con (which hand is the bill in? bill travels to purse)
3. The Bill Change
4. The Total Con (Slow Motion Bill Transposition)
 		1991 Roger Klause: In Concert 89
Alexander de Cova $100 Bill Switch presentation with Topsy Turvy Bill intro
 		1992 Ein Profi packt aus... 93
Steve Beam Community Property bill changes into other as well as the bill on a picture
Also published here 1992 The Trapdoor — Volume Two (Issue 44) 785
Gene Anderson, Dan Harlan Penned In dollar bill changes into piece of paper and will be found in pen, held by spectator
 		1994 The Minotaur (Vol. 6 No. 1) 8
Paul Diamond Paul's Bill Switch
1994 Close-Up File 41
Gary Kurtz Counterfeit borrowed, initialed 20$ bill to obviously fake 100$ bill with same serial number and initials, changes into real bill in performer's wallet
Also published here 1995 Notes from The Summit 6
Richard Sanders Richie's Double Bill Switch bill changes twice and then back
Inspired byVariationsAlso published here 1995 Natural Selections 111
David Acer Around the World in 80 Dollars multiple currency changes
Inspired byAlso published here 1995 Natural Selections 117
David Acer Money for Nothing photo of performer holding a dollar bill is shown, $20 bill changes into a $1 bill, bill on photograph has changed into $20
VariationsAlso published here 1995 Natural Selections 118
Paul Harris Buck Naked 1$ bill changes to 5$ bill in presence of two other 5$ bills
 		1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 1 (Issue New Stuff) 11
Paul Harris Buck Naked Fantasy two 1$ bills into 5$ bills
 		1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 1 (Issue New Stuff) 15
Paul Harris Big Buck Naked two $2 bills in $100 bills
 		1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 1 (Issue New Stuff) 19
Paul Harris Counterfeit Spectator printed signature on bill changes into spectator's name
 		1996 The Art of Astonishment — Book 2 (Issue New Stuff) 13
Helge Thun TesaBill bill signed and corner torn off, it becomes blank paper, bill now in tape dispenser, signature pulled off (letraline)
 		1996 7 Close-Up 22
Doug Edwards It's All An Illusion No thumbtip
 		1997 Doug Edwards Packs a Wallop! 65
Richard Osterlind Osterlind on the Hundred-Dollar Bill Switch
  • Economic Expansion
  • Twe for the Money
 		1999 Dynamic Mysteries 14
Hiroyuki Sakai The Fishy Five ten dollar bill and five dollar bill with slit, the one with slit is folded so it looks like two, it then changes into the ten dollar bill and the one with slit is found in wallet
 		Feb. 1999 Genii (Vol. 62 No. 2) 39
Peter Kane Coupon to Currency coupon change to bill
Also published here
  • Lecture Notes
 Mar. 1999 Genii (Vol. 62 No. 3) 35
Toshio Akanuma, Shintaro Fujiyama Kaushi To Senyen: White Paper to 1,000 Yen
May 1999 Genii (Vol. 62 No. 5) 40
Ali Bongo Ali Bongos Trinkgeldtip inducing tips
 		2000 Intermagic (Vol. 24 No. 1) 32
Bob Read Papiergeld newspaper snippets change to bill, corner missing, newspaper piece from floor changed into missing corner
 		2000 Intermagic (Vol. 24 No. 2) 50
Paul Chosse Bar Bill Stunt bill changes into mis-made bill ("quartered bill")
 		2001 Bar Bill Stunt 2
Paul Chosse, Ron Bauer Drawn Instead of Quartered "Presentation Two", bill changes into bill with drawing on it
Also published here 2001 Bar Bill Stunt 17
Michael Powers, Ron Bauer The Powers' Payoff "Presentation Three", bill changes into "Inverted Dollar" with center upside down
Inspired by
  • "Inverted Dollar" (Mike Powers, Close-Up Variety Pack)
 2001 Bar Bill Stunt 18
John Cornelius The IncrediBill Routine Bill Change routine
 		2001 The Award-Winning Magic of John Cornelius 129
Roger Klause The $100 Bill Change
2001 The Award-Winning Magic of John Cornelius 129
Marc DeSouza Picasso's Bill stick figure drawn on bill before making it turn into mis-made bill
Also published here 2001 DeSouza's DeCeptions 23
Christian Scherer Der neurotische Geldschein 10$ bill turns into a 100$ bill, then a part of the bill is extracted and burnt, in a flash it changes into coins the value of the 10$
Related to 2002 Kreative Magie 43
Jay Sankey Cornered Circular hole in bill becomes square hole
 		2003 Twenty Years Of Magic (Issue Tricks of the Trade) 44
Jay Sankey Nothing Moved Circular hole in bill moves into/out of a circle drawn with a Sharpie on the bill
 		2003 Twenty Years Of Magic (Issue Tricks of the Trade) 45
Jay Sankey Instabank Cheque changes into hundred dollar bill
 		2003 Twenty Years Of Magic (Issue Tricks of the Trade) 45
Eric Mead Bunny Bill Swindle using Bob Neale's bunny bill fold, kids are conned out of 9$ in the process
Also published here 2003 Collexion 13
Jon Allen Cash In Hand (Palm-up Bill Switch) bill switch done palm up
Also published here 2003 Jon Allen's Lecture — The Director's Cut — The Sequel 9
Jon Allen Inner Space (Internal Switch) message put on bill changes, bill switch
Also published here 2003 Jon Allen's Lecture — The Director's Cut — The Sequel 12
Jon Allen Memento real bill and bill on polaroid transform into other bills
Also published here 2003 Jon Allen's Lecture — The Director's Cut — The Sequel 13
Jon Allen Changing Faces (Oralgami) paper with text is folded several times and unfolded again, text is longer than paper has surfaces
Also published here 2003 Jon Allen's Lecture — The Director's Cut — The Sequel 15
David Acer Make This Disappear "THIS" written on bill changes to "DISAPPEAR", then bill vanishes
 		2004 Random Acts of Magic 217
Axel Hecklau Der 5-Euro Flip bill transformation, to other bill
 		2004 "Effektiv" 39
Jay Sankey Personal Check check changes to bill using $100 Bill Switch
 		2004 Sankey Unleashed 74
Jay Sankey Genuine Counterfeit corner torn off piece of white paper, paper changes into bill with missing corner, white corner fits, using $100 Bill Switch
 		2004 Sankey Unleashed 78
Joshua Jay Inflated Transposition bill transposition with surprise $100 dollar bill ending
Inspired byAlso published here 2005 Sleight of Hand and a Twist of Fate 25
John Lovick, Mike Kozlowski, Roger Klause, James Lewis, Michael Ammar, Bruce Cervon, Michael Weber, Jamy Ian Swiss, Gregory Wilson, Jay Sankey, Paul Gertner Performance Issues and Answers comments on each question by several of the listed creators
  • Top Tip or Not to Tip?
  • "Bill Switch" or "Bill Change"?
  • What's the Best Way to Learn the Bill Switch?
  • Fast or Slow?
  • Do You Justify the Folding?
  • Is There a Magic Moment?
  • Can You Create Belief, or Do People Always Know You Merely Switch Bills?
  • Any Final Thoughts?
Also published here July 2005 Genii (Vol. 68 No. 7) 36
R. Paul Wilson, Jeff Ezell Gift Certificates, Coupons, Keno, Lotto, etc.
Also published here July 2005 Genii (Vol. 68 No. 7) 39
Michael Weber Ma Bill bill to phone bill
Also published here July 2005 Genii (Vol. 68 No. 7) 40
Gregory Wilson Benjagami presentation for bill change
Also published here July 2005 Genii (Vol. 68 No. 7) 85
Norm Barnhart George Washington's Special Talent presentation for bill change
Also published here July 2005 Genii (Vol. 68 No. 7) 86
Gregory Wilson Faux Flaw presentation for mis-made bill
Also published here July 2005 Genii (Vol. 68 No. 7) 86
Brian Campbell Picture Perfect photo of spectator appears on bill
Also published here July 2005 Genii (Vol. 68 No. 7) 88
Bob Ostin The Wishing Paper paper with a lot of holes changes to bill
 		2005 Bob Ostin — A Lifetime of Magical Inventions 170
Eric Mead The Bunny-Bill Swindle using Bob Neale's bunny bill fold, kids are conned out of 9$ in the process
Also published here 2006 Tangled Web 49
Michael Powers Double Your Money borrowed Five Dollar Bill changes to Ten, then transposition
Inspired byRelated to
  • Michael Powers' version on video Top Secret Close-Up (1992)
 2006 Power Plays 216
Thom Peterson, Jay Sankey George of the Jumble torn and mismade-restored bill
Related to Nov. 2006 Genii (Vol. 69 No. 11) 29
John Lovick, Mike Kozlowski, Roger Klause, James Lewis, Michael Ammar, Bruce Cervon, Michael Weber, Jamy Ian Swiss, Gregory Wilson, Jay Sankey, Paul Gertner Chapter 2: Performance Issues and Answers comments on each question by several of the listed creators
  • Top Tip or Not to Tip?
  • "Bill Switch" or "Bill Change"?
  • What's the Best Way to Learn the Bill Switch?
  • Fast or Slow?
  • Do You Justify the Folding?
  • Is There a Magic Moment?
  • Can You Create Belief, or Do People Always Know You Merely Switch Bills?
  • Any Final Thoughts?
Also published here 2006 Switch 9
Richard Sanders Richie's Double Bill Switch Fiver bill borrowed, becomes Ten, then Twenty, then Five
Also published here 2006 Switch 144
Richard Sanders Three Fold Ten to Fifty to One to Ten dollar bill
 		2006 Switch 146
David Acer Around the World in 80 Dollars multiple currency changes
Also published here 2006 Switch 146
Rod Chow The Full-Show Double Bill Change bill changes twice
 		2006 Switch 147
William Goldman The Chameleon Bill bill changes several times during folding
Also published here
  • lecture notes "3", 1995
 2006 Switch 151
Gregory Wilson Foreign Affair bill changes several times during folding
Also published here
  • In Action! Vol. 3 (DVD, 2005)
 2006 Switch 153
Gregory Wilson Take Five bill changes several times during folding
 		2006 Switch 154
Gregory Wilson Illegal Tender blank piece of paper changes gradually into bill during folding
 		2006 Switch 155
John Lovick Chapter 12: Miscellaneous Methods intro
 		2006 Switch 157
Unknown Self-Contained Bill Change
2006 Switch 157
Rod Chow The Melt Change
2006 Switch 162
Rod Chow Instant Transmutation folded twice only
 		2006 Switch 166
Nourdine Le Petit Prince change in folded condition done one-handed and visual
Also published here
  • Imagik, July 1994
 2006 Switch 170
John Lovick Chapter 13: $1 to $100 Routine intro
  • First Option
  • Second Option
  • Third Option
 		2006 Switch 181
Richard Hatch Power of Suggestion
2006 Switch 183
Allan Zola Kronzek Hypnotizing Ben
Also published here
  • Destiny, Chance and Free Will (2000)
 2006 Switch 184
Eric A. Maurin Trick Question
2006 Switch 186
Tim Trono Birthday Bill
2006 Switch 187
Marc DeSouza Picasso's Bill stick figure drawn on bill before making it turn into mis-made bill
Also published here 2006 Switch 196
Andrew J. Pinard Autograph Collection borrowed bill signed by performer, turned into mis-made bill and back
Also published here
  • The Magic Menu, Winter 2002, No. 61
 2006 Switch 198
Gregory Wilson Signature Piece borrowed bill signed by performer, turned into mis-made bill and given to spectator
 		2006 Switch 200
Danny Archer Bill Mis-Made mis-made bill shown, turned into normal bill
 		2006 Switch 201
Lance DeLong The Mis-Made Frog bill folded into frog, when unfolded it is a mis-made bill
 		2006 Switch 202
Scotty York Change for a Twenty Twenty dollar bill changed into two Ten dollar bills
Also published here
  • Greater Magic Video Library Vol. 49, Bar Magic, 1994
 2006 Switch 241
Jason Randal Any Bill Called For bill changes into named bill, index
 		2006 Switch 243
Jon Allen Internal Switch post-it message put on bill changes, bill switch
Also published here 2006 Switch 248
Gregory Wilson Curious George selected card appears in thought bubble drawn on a bill, bill switch
Inspired by 2006 Switch 249
Richard Sanders Fast Forward bill borrowed and serial number recorded, bill transforms into old worn-out bill with notes on it, has same number
Also published here
  • Visi-Bill (video, 2002)
 2006 Switch 252
Gregory Wilson, David Gripenwaldt Tax Bill bill changes into bill with holes, one of the missing pieces is changed into coin
 		2006 Switch 253
Marvyn Roy Tip for Tat borrowed Twenty vanishes, a One dollar bill changes into that Twenty
 		2006 Switch 255
Steve Mayhew Das Kapital routine with several consecutive bill changes with borrowed bills
Also published here
  • Labyrinth No. 7, 1997
 2006 Switch 256
Jamy Ian Swiss Quadradical Currency combination routine with bill changes, torn and restored to mis-made bill, borrowed signed bill to wallet
Inspired by
  • "Borrowed Bill Routine" (John Cornelius, 1984 manuscript)
 2006 Switch 258
Robert E. Neale Trust Me routine with change and fake explanation
 		2006 Switch 262
Gary Kurtz Counterfeit borrowed, initialed 20$ bill to obviously fake 100$ bill with same serial number and initials, changes into real bill in performer's wallet
Also published here 2006 Switch 264
Gregory Wilson Front Money bill printed on only one side, changed into real bill
 		2006 Switch 266
Gregory Wilson Completely Legal Counterfeit white paper with small square of bill printed is changed into regular bill
 		2006 Switch 268
Eric A. Maurin Shred of Evidence corner torn off One dollar bill, changed into Five dollar bill and corner still fits
 		2006 Switch 269
Nathan Kranzo Blank corner torn off blank piece of paper, corner is seen to be part of a bill, rest changed into matching bill
 		2006 Switch 270
Nathan Kranzo Reality Check check for $10.25, corner torn off and changed into quarter in a flash, rest is changed into Ten dollar bill
 		2006 Switch 271
Jay Sankey Do Not Fold words on bill travel from one side to the other
 		2006 Switch 275
Gregory Wilson Up Front and Back Down words on bill travel from one side to the other
 		2006 Switch 277
David Acer Picturesque photo of performer holding a dollar bill is shown and put in Himber wallet, $20 bill changes into a $1 bill, bill on photograph has changed into $20
Inspired byAlso published here
  • This is a Circle, 2001 lecture notes
 2006 Switch 278
Jon Allen Memento real bill and bill on polaroid transform into other bills
Also published here 2006 Switch 279
Tony Chapek, Michael Weber, Michael Powers Reversal of Fortune topsy-turvy bill, then picture of George Washington has turned upside down on bill
Related toAlso published here
  • Linking Ring, Aug. 1985
 2006 Switch 282
Stevie Ray Christian One in a Million handing out a fake million-dollar bill
  • As an Encore
  • Upon Receiving a Tip
  • Special Occasions
  • Something Special for a Boss or Other Bigwig
  • For Children
 		2006 Switch 289
R. Paul Wilson, Jeff Ezell Gift Certificates, Coupons, Keno, Lotto, etc.
Also published here 2006 Switch 290
Michael Weber Ma Bill bill to phone bill
Also published here 2006 Switch 290
John Lovick Origami on combining bill changes with origami
Related to 2006 Switch 290
Gregory Wilson Benjagami presentation for bill change
Also published here 2006 Switch 291
Norm Barnhart George Washington's Special Talent presentation for bill change
Also published here 2006 Switch 291
Gregory Wilson Faux Flaw presentation for mis-made bill
Also published here 2006 Switch 292
Jim Artle Drinker's PSA presentation for mis-made bill
 		2006 Switch 292
Ron Bauer Drawn Instead of Quartered bill changes into bill with drawing on it
Also published here 2006 Switch 293
Brian Campbell Picture Perfect photo of spectator appears on bill
Also published here 2006 Switch 294
Kostya Kimlat Gigabyte Switch writing on piece of paper changes with bill switch, corporate presentation
 		2006 Switch 310
Jon Allen Oralgami paper with text is folded several times and unfolded again, text is longer than paper has surfaces
Also published here 2006 Switch 311
Patrik Kuffs Boggled letters are jumbled on piece of paper, spectator makes up a word and that word appears after bill switch technique
 		2006 Switch 314
Joshua Jay Inflated Transposition bill transposition with surprise $100 dollar bill ending
Also published here Feb. 2006 Antinomy (Vol. 2 No. 1) 17
Nathan Kranzo Ideas for the Orange $10 Bill ideas with the new, different-colored dollar bill (2006)
  • Orange-Flavored Bill (transformation, using tic tacs)
  • Kool-Aid Bill (transformation)
  • Orange Silkworm ala Vernon (orange silk produced from bill)
 		Dec. 2006 Antinomy (Vol. 2 No. Annual 2006) 36
Phil Labush, Sam Schwartz All in One fake 100 dollar bill is transformed into a fake 50, 20, 10 and 5, then a real 1 dollar bill
 		July 2008 Genii (Vol. 71 No. 7) 25
Slydini Paper Money torn paper pieces change into bill, thumb tip steal subtlety
 		2009 Prolix (Issue 6) 390
Roberto Giobbi, Jean-Eugène Robert-Houdin Lyophilized Money burnt white paper transforms into bill, then into higher denomination bill, inspired by Robert-Houdin's "La pièce fusible"
 		2010 Secret Agenda (Issue Aug 21) 250
David Acer Around the World in Eighty Dollars bill changes into two different currencies one after the other and back
Also published here 2011 More Power to You 29
David Acer Money for Nothing photo of performer holding a dollar bill is shown, $20 bill changes into a $1 bill, bill on photograph has changed into $20
Also published here 2011 More Power to You 137
Christian Scherer Der neurotische Geldschein 10$ bill turns into a 100$ bill, then a part of the bill is extracted and burnt, in a flash it changes into coins the value of the 10$, improved handling
Related to 2014 Schlaglichter 221
Tomas Blomberg Bills Witch ten-dollar bill changes into a twenty-dollar bill, three different handlings, gaffed bill
  • First folding method
  • Second folding method
  • No-fold method
 		2014 Blomberg Laboratories 41
Tomas Blomberg Double Bills Witch twenty-dollar bill is split into two ten-dollar bills
 		2014 Blomberg Laboratories 49
Tomas Blomberg, Paul Harris Double Bills Witch Routine twenty-dollar bill is split into two ten-dollar bills, one of them changes back into a twenty
 		2014 Blomberg Laboratories 52
John Lovick The 100th Dollar Bill Change no thumb tip
 		2016 The Performance Pieces & Divertissements of the Famous Handsome Jack, etc. 25
Daniel Garcia Love Note bill visibly transforms into folded origami finger ring
 		2018 Something More 30
Fritz Alkemade Moneyball bill travelling effect, end with bills fusing into a single bill of twice the value
 		July 2019 Elixir (Vol. 2 No. 2 (Winter #2)) 170
Helge Thun Rollmops Reloaded 20 bill changes into 100, 20 is found in case wrapped around signed selection
Inspired by 2019 Seminah 8